When I asked at the stadium tour office and at the Juve museum where the memorial was nobody knew. It was only brought into the open when Liverpool and Juventus were drawn together in the Champions League quarter-final in 2005, at which point the Merseyside club, after consultation with their Italian counterparts, announced it would be a game of friendship. This is the real reason why the lovable scallys are hated at Stamford Bridge. There can never be justice for 39 lives lost at a football match, but it is in Turin , not on Merseyside, that the cries of the bereaved have met with silence down the years. We had a great party during the day, but there was a bit of taunting, a few missiles thrown, and then the Italian fans started spitting. So was gendarme captain Johan Mahieu, who was in charge of the policing the stands at Heysel. Supporters of rival teams chant Murderers and the Liverpool fans have little response. Thanks for this sensitive, balanced and honest article. Reds supporters notably booed the national anthem during the 2021/22 FA Cup final at Wembley. They were spotted in Harwich Port in Essex at around 9am on January 7. 1971: British diplomat freed after eight months, 1987: Liverpool fans to stand trial in Belgium, 1999: Report urges sweeping reform of RUC. I guess that was the only chance many English football hooligans had to travel abroad to cause mayhem, as their teams didnt provide them with that opportunity back then. "Had Hillsborough not happened we may have dealt with it, but there has been a feeling that we just need to forget Heysel and hope it went away. 97 Liverpool fansOn a sunny spring afternoon in 1989, a crush developed at the Hillsborough stadium in Sheffield resulting in the deaths of 97 Liverpool fans attending the clubs FA Cup semi-final against Nottingham Forest. As a Chelsea season ticket holder for many years, I witnessed the Heysel disaster unfold in front of me on television. WebThe actions of the minority of Liverpool supporters who charged the Z zone contingent at Heysel was inexcusable, however Juventus fans cannot be excused from blame. This is a good, well reasoned article, not afraid to pull its punches. "It was all right at first. There are dozens of points that are usually offered to explain the context, not least over ticketing, segregation and a crumbling stadium, but the context does not begin to excuse what happened. Thank you for writing this piece about like you say, such a taboo subject. Poor boardroom decisions and transfer policy became the running theme of Everton in the 1990s. At the Heysel Stadium in Brussels, before the scheduled kick-off of the European Cup final, 39 people lost their lives when a decaying wall collapsed under the pressure of scores of fleeing people during a period of crowd violence involving According to her LinkedIn page, she used to work as a photojournalist and did a short stint as a researcher at Qatari news channel Al Jazeera's London office after graduation. Justice for Heysel? Not one person arrested or charged came from the London area and why would they. Prior to Heysel the violence that season was at Millwall, Chelsea, West Ham and Leeds. On the other side of the ground a shop front bears the name of the Hillsborough Justice Campaign, a group still fighting for those responsible for pointless, preventable deaths to be brought to account. After leaving the Vatican we went for a pint in a nearby bar, there appeared to be good banter with some Roma fans but then armed Police arrived and started pointing guns towards Liverpool fans, me and my mate gave it toes and hid in the bog inside the bar. Brussels has a large expatriate Italian community, and so many inevitably secured tickets for the Z section, which was set aside for neutral Belgian fans. Mi piacerebbe lUEFA tolga dalle statistiche la Juve Campione dEuropa 1985-. Some had previous convictions for football-related violence, but hadnt been prevented from travelling by the British authorities. Thirty-nine people were crushed to death. Twenty-six Liverpool fans were charged with manslaughter and extradited to Belgium in I shall never forget it, nor the shock and sadness I saw on the faces of real Liverpool fans as we travelled home in the night and the news trickled in of what had happened. The fact that there were obviously many other factors at play which actually contributed to the deaths, has perhaps given us an out which we are sometimes too keen to take. By the time the game eventually kicked-off, Juventus fans were still fighting a battle against police using bottles, broken stones, and missiles. Personalmente quella coppa la considero solo una amara statistica, e penso che nessuno sano di mente la possa associare ad una vittoria delluna o ad una sconfitta dellaltra squadra. I recognise I can do my bit as an individual like going to Juve forums as suggested (thanks) but gestures through large groups would be a more powerful message. and 39 innocent victims lost their lives. Is it possible for Liverpool fans to reconcile themselves with the terrible things that are said about them? Their biggest beef lies with regional foe Manchester United, though they also have long standing rivalries with Premier League mates Everton, Chelsea, Tottenham Hotspur, Manchester City, and Arsenal. That's when the charge started. Officially, the finger of blame was pointed squarely at the English fans. When she was 21, Ms Marten was deemed an 'It' girl, appearing on fashion magazine Tatler's Babe of the Month page, while she was a student in 2008. There was no direct reference to what had happened. Not all share his view. extracts from Chris Rowlands book From Where I Was Standing As to whether individuals were brought to account, 27 arrests were made on suspicion of manslaughter and 26 men were charged. Both Liverpool and Juventus as a mark of respect for the victims should do some Liverpool are a great club, but their fans have always been a disgrace, we see it time and time again, they have no respect for any other club or its supporters and as we have all just seen after their first Premier league win in 30 years, nothing changes in the violence and destruction which was apparent in and around the City centre. Ive always stopped and thought about that day whenever I saw that it was May 29. New inquests into the disaster are probing allegations of a complex series of failures by the authorities on the day. The blame for Heysel was initially laid entirely on Liverpool fans, and 14 were later found guilty of manslaughter and jailed. The turnstiles had been abandoned and you didn't even need a ticket, and there was rubble lying around everywhere. Incredible insensitivity from the club (and the parades organisers). We dont need reciprocation but the lack of it undermines Liverpools great history. Information provided by taxi drivers suggests that the couple paid cash to travel first to Liverpool and then to Essex. Mark Gordon, 48, and partner Constance Marten, 35, have been at the centre of a nationwide police hunt for two weeks as fears have grown for the welfare of Miss Marten's newborn baby. It might even seem a bit false.". As a British 17 year old Juve fan, I travelled to Heysel on the Liverpool train/ferry and stood on the terraces with the Livetpool fans. Liverpool FC remembers the 39 football fans who lost their lives at Heysel Stadium in Belgium on this day 37 years ago. Those bereaved and outraged by Hillsborough have fought to keep their campaign for justice alive and been entirely vindicated for doing so. It is a black mark and it will be there forever. Adesso quando penso a Liverpool mi si associano due idee molto contrastanti: i Beatles e lHeysel. We appear to have done great things linking up with other fans abroad, the liaisons with Borrusia and the Gate 21 supporters group being great examples, but guess Juve has been a bit nervy to approach as outlined in the article. Police released this picture of Constance Marten and Mark Gordon outside East Ham station at around 11.45am on Saturday January 7. Only a few hundred caused the trouble that led to the deaths, Uefa were partly culpable for the stadium choice, ticket allocation and the stadium authorities for the pathetic segregation of fans & policing. He is still scarred by what he witnessed that night. The argument that this cost sides more severely than initially thought gained most of its fervour when Merseyside rivals Everton suffered a downturn in fortunes during the 1990s. With regards to Heysel, its not my experience that they dont accept responsibility. Your email address will not be published. As for Heysel, if you look at the footage barely a fight took place. It took ten minutes before they found out, and then asked me to pay the full museum fee to go in to pay my respects. As was stated in this article Heysel was waiting to happen, its a pity the authorities did not learn from what happened in Rome and other previous games to put a strategy in place to prevent the inevitable. They would have also qualified for the European Cup Winners Cup in 1986, and the UEFA Cup in 1989. A little more recognition closer to home is what they want. The same cannot be said of the other tragedy in Liverpool's recent history, however; bridges may have been built between the boardrooms at Liverpool and Juventus, but you have to search harder to find a public reference to Heysel at Anfield. They finished runners up in 1986, and also managed to win the title again in 1987, two years after the ban began. By posting your comment you agree to our house rules. A former classmate described Ms Marten as a 'very talented' actress who 'could have gone very far', before becoming estranged from her wealthy family. by OkeyCokey - 29th Dec 2022 9:13am. Having spoken to Juve fans over the years about it, it seems many are more aware of the full details of what happened than fans of other clubs, and while some (a minority) still talk of revenge, many of them have shown a willingness to forgive. What a terrible night for football regardless of who you support or who you blame. Clutching at straws there headhunter. I was not there, but have some strong memories of that evening. Hooligans from the far right would not have been welcome.). Hansen, Rush, NIcol, Whelan, Beglin to name a few cost minimal fees yet won numerous trophies. Britain's biggest mass-extradition began at 1025 BST when two large vans transported the prisoners from Wormwood Scrubs in London to an RAF base in Oxfordshire. Some tried to climb a wall to escape. I was shown a copy of the clubs official yearbook for 1985/86. It is difficult to find by accident! Thirty-nine peoplemostly Italians and Juventus fanswere killed and 600 were injured in the confrontation. They left on foot with their baby boy and have been missing since despite an extensive police search. The latest in the sports world, emailed daily. Perhaps a podcast might be in order sometime, with a guest from the now disbanded Association for the Victims of Heysel (Lorentini? Despite two subsequent apologies, the paper has been shunned in Liverpool ever since. The baby is swaddled. Before the first leg at Anfield, Liverpool supporters held up a mosaic to form the word amicizia. That was always dangerous.". The last confirmed sighting of them was more than a week ago in East Ham they could now be anywhere in the UK, which is why it is vital that members of the public continue to contact us with any suspected sightings. 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The couple were later evicted from their Ilford home, moving to the Coldharbour Estate in southeast London. The biased Liverpool loving media, ignore this fact of how they continually `bought` their success over two decades. "As soon as we got to Ostend and saw the reporters waiting we realised the party was over," Allt says. The official UEFA observer, Gunter Schneider, despite evidence to the contrary, said, "Only the English fans were responsible. I have no words besides thank you. Liverpool FC fans often boo the national anthem with manager Jurgen Klopp urging fans to respect a minutes silence for the death of Queen Elizabeth II before Tuesdays nights Champions League match against Ajax. Let us state a few of the facts about whether justice was done. Your comment will be posted to MailOnline as usual. That hundreds of Liverpool fans sent death threats and demanded tour cancellations from Alan Davies when he mentioned the aforementioned issue. What should have been the greatest day in many fans and players lives became the biggest tragedy in European competition. Liverpool fans breached the fence and charged. Maybe this unwillingness to accept our part in what happened has increased other peoples eagerness to use it as a stick to beat us with over the years, albeit it often in a cheap and snidey manner at times. I was in section Z. A really well written piece on a difficult issue. Both are great clubs. UEFA, organizers, stewards, police, LFC fans, Juve Fans. Its weird that a tragedy like this, at a televised showcase final is so under-reported and unexamined. While theres not a whole lot we can about that, we can at least show some solidarity with our fellow supporters, who understand what its like to loose people so unnecessarily at a football match. While we have finally been able to make progress with regards Hillsborough its sad that Heysel victims groups in Italy have had less success. To do this we will link your MailOnline account with your Facebook account. The location on the edge of the car park is in my view disrespectful but better than nothing. Coverage of the 1989 Hillsborough disaster by the British tabloid The Sun led to the newspapers decline in Liverpool and the broader Merseyside region, with organised boycotts against it. Fourteen British soccer fans today were convicted of involuntary manslaughter in connection with the deaths of 39 Italian fans at an abortive match at Heysel Stadium here nearly four years ago. Liverpool supporters were unfairly and wrongly blamed for the chaotic scenes at the Champions League final in Paris last season to divert attention from the real failure of the state and organisers, a French senate report has found. He was aged just 15 when convicted of the offences at a court in Broward County, Fort Lauderdale, Florida in 1990. WebI'm not sure what any of this has to do with Hillsborough. The fact is and still is, that the then Liverpool FC board blamed my club, along with West Ham and Millwall for the disaster at Heysel and to this day they have never issued an apology of any sort whatsoever. Among these clubs were Liverpool, Everton, Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Nottingham Forest, Tottenham Hotspur, Norwich City, and Leeds United. I was only 14 years old then, but I will always remember being sprayed with CS gas by someone who tapped on our taxi window, as we thought, to ask directions. They would have qualified for the European Cup in those years, but were denied their right by the ban. Addressing the hearing into events in the French capital on 28 May, Liverpool fans representatives described the terror of being attacked by police with teargas and pepper spray on one hand and gangs of local muggers and pickpockets on the other at the Stade de France before and after their match against Real Madrid. I could say Chelsea practically bought their champions League and Premier League successes. by NickWirral - 23rd Dec 2022 12:19pm. As a result of the events that unfolded on April 15, 1989, at the FA Cup semi-final against Nottingham Forest, 97 children, women and men lost their lives. I was at Heysel. The lack of a full and proper inquiry has also led to a lot of misconceptions too it seems, particularly among younger fans. Let us know. They are more approachable on the subject that many would think and are often very glad to know that we have not forgotten the 39. The comments below have been moderated in advance. 29th May. John Williams, a sociologist at the Norman Chester Centre for Football Research and an Anfield season-ticket holder, believes attitudes to Heysel stem from a deep sense of shame, and are bound up with Hillsborough. UEFAs response was to ban Leeds from European competition for four years. Remarkable piece. The chant that followed was "alway Green Shield Stamps. Their trial is expected to start in the new year - if convicted they face a The attitude of many of our fans towards Heysel has always troubled me somewhat. "But it wasn't until after Hillsborough that I realised quite what had happened at Heysel. "I had never seen such a shambles as Heysel," he says. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. However, there have been several sightings including in Essex and East London, Ms Marten and her partner Mark Gordon have been missing since January 5 after their car broke down and caught fire on the M61. There was bewilderment, too, at the choice of stadium. Ms Marten (pictured) and her partner have now been missing for days. Now 43, he spent his youth following Liverpool's great European adventure largely for free, thanks to his skilful evasion of the authorities. Date 29 May 1985 Deaths 39 Football, from that moment, would never be the same again. Its a joyless success, but the victory enabled the Bianconeri to fly to Tokyo in winter to play the Intercontinental Cup final. Its written all over our messageboards, our websites, our newspapers, and at certain times of year, our Kop. We will automatically post your comment and a link to the news story to your Facebook timeline at the same time it is posted on MailOnline. These tickets were sold to Italian immigrants and Belgians, who were separated from their rivals by a chicken-wire fence and a line of reluctant, inexperienced police. Attitudes to Heysel remain equivocal on Merseyside, in part because the events were never subject to detailed scrutiny. Heysel is an unspeakably awkward subject for Liverpool perhaps more, perhaps less, for the anguish the club and the city endured four years later at Hillsborough. In fact their fortunes didnt change until just before the ban on English clubs was lifted five years after Heysel. He has chronicled the eight-year party that saw Liverpool collect four European Cups in Boys from the Mersey, a book, he says, which is the most shoplifted in Waterstones' Liverpool branch. There is no doubt that English clubs suffered as a result. I do recall a massive banner with Reds animals written on it though. As for justice, an initial inquiry by Marina Coppieters, a leading Belgian judge, found after 18 months that the police and the authorities, in addition to Liverpool supporters, should face charges. Your email address will not be published. Well ask you to confirm this for your first post to Facebook. The simple rule that makes dieting easy: Only eat foods with fewer than FIVE ingredients - so can you guess how many are in these 'healthy' snacks? How Do I Complain To The Royal Liverpool Hospital? There seems to have been many factors involved and Liverpool fans do need to accept their share of responsibility. But you never hear of this because the tragedy is taboo. It is unclear where they were living in the months between August and January of this year. Its used in relation to another dark time, separate to Heysel, but whats the truth about May 29, 1985, and the build up to events that would change football, and Liverpool FC, forever? My brother-in-law is a loyal Liverpool fan who was at Heysel and even he admits that the charge by the Liverpool fans was as a direct result of the appalling treatment him and others received in Rome. May 29th 1985 will go down as one of footballs darkest days. America wants answers, not your infuriatingly smug denial of a national scandal, Did the Hunter investigation turn Biden's lawyers into a 'cleaning crew?' "Stories of supporters from other clubs and political groups infiltrating the group emerged, and these were followed by the maladministration of Uefa, the poor quality of the stadium and the cowardice of police. Approach Anfield from any direction and you are immediately - and properly - confronted by Hillsborough. And civil damages estimated at more than 5million were provisionally awarded to families of the Heysel victims against the convicted fans and the BFU. It had been labelled a dump by Arsenal fans following a European match a few years earlier, and Liverpool CEO Peter Robinson, so worried about crowd safety, asked UEFA to choose another venue. I was a bit older, and it's when it happens to your own that you realise what the Italians had gone through. Liverpool is one of English soccers oldest teams, and over the years they have accumulated a number of rivalries. They did not need to act, however, as UEFA moved quickly to ban English clubs from Europe for an indeterminate period of time.. They were flown to Belgium in a military aircraft and driven immediately to the law courts in central Brussels, where they were questioned and formally remanded by magistrates. 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